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Biometric Big Brother
First fingerprint pub entry system launched in Brighton

Biometric Big Brother

Monday, 28 May 2007

Is public safety your prime concern, or do you feel your civil liberties are being eaten away by CCTV, membership databases and the internet?

In the latest move to ensure a safe environment for drinkers, one of Brighton's oldest gay pubs has introduced the first biometric membership scheme in the city. After midnight, instead of presenting a membership card to gain entry, you simply put your finger on a scanner and the system identifies you. It's high tech, it's quick and it's hassle-free once you've registered your details with the venue.

Does this system overstep a line, or is it simply good use of technology? There are some that will argue that, little by little, we are allowing our lives to be monitored, logged, indexed and processed - and that this is somehow a dangerous or unsavoury thing.

The pub's aim is very simply to ensure that the venue is a safe place for customers to drink after hours. With late licensing there is far more likelihood of opportunistic drinkers stumbling from town into gay venues and causing problems... with a good membership system this can be largely avoided. By using fingerprint recognition (the system doesn't actually store a fingerprint itself - merely encodes a few points of the fingerprint and scans for those same points the next time you use it), members can forget about carrying cards and can simply present a finger at the door to gain entry.

Controversial? Perhaps... but effective? Without a doubt.

What do you think? Most of us are happy to provide our details for a Tesco Clubcard and allow them to log our purchases in return for reward points, but are are you happy to use your fingerprint in place of a card to gain access to member benefits?

your comments

said by Mike
on Tuesday, 29 May 2007, 9:16am

Think it's a great idea, it also overcomes other problems at the same time.

Jerome1

said by Jerome1
on Tuesday, 29 May 2007, 12:20pm

Not being a strong advocate of the current totalitarian regime's desire to brand us all criminals before we've been charged(!)... I do think this is an excellent scheme!

How many of us on a night out are going to find our membership card let alone remember to have brought it out with us in the first place?! The fact that it only recognises points on one's digit and doesn't have the whole print I assume means that one's personal privacy/identity is not open to huge risk of abuse?! Dunno, but I think this scheme is fit for purpose and as long as the data is protected properly - can't see any problem...

Now, storing new-born babies DNA on a government database... that's a whole different matter!

onemorechris

said by onemorechris
on Tuesday, 29 May 2007, 5:55pm

I imagine many people will see this as a case of, "does it matter if you're not planning on doing anything wrong?" But perhaps the use of this technology suggests a certain level of faceless suspicion to the customer? Having studied similar uses of 'big brother style' tagging and logging, I think we should be prepared for more of this in the future - particularly from shops and supermarkets...

MrTinker

said by MrTinker
on Wednesday, 30 May 2007, 7:32pm

It all depends on how and where the data collected is used.

I'm not sure if there is a need for it? Is the aim of it to make venues safer or exclusive.

I'm not too sure...

theguru

said by theguru
on Thursday, 31 May 2007, 9:39pm

My thought on this is simple, the information collected will join a main database which will show our movements, lifestyle spending and sexuality! Virtually all information gathered by any such system will form a picture of us and how we live our lives. Is this how our society should develop? ID cards have been rejected by the public but now we are being asked to agree to being fingerprinted socially.

I for one will not use any venue that uses such a system and would strongly reccomend others avoid them too. This has nothing to do with memberships, it is in fact an invasion of our basic right to move around freely.

Timmy

said by Timmy
on Friday, 1 June 2007, 2:35pm

Maybe my sense of paranoia isn't as fully developed as some, but this system doesn't bother me. I didn't really see what all the fuss about ID cards was either... I haven't got anything to hide.

Credit scoring is far more intrusive and makes far more assumptions about you - and you can't opt out of that even if you're not borrowing anything!

Everything we do is logged... from clubcards, credit cards and CCTV through to vehicle number-plate recognition (16 cameras have been placed strategically around Brighton). This is a system that that makes sure our late nights out are safer and hassle free - a membership scheme without an extra card to have to remember to carry. The Bulldog should be praised for embracing technology for the protection of its customers.

Bring on the iris scanners!

jimmegee

said by jimmegee
on Friday, 1 June 2007, 4:37pm

My journeys in London are logged with an Oyster card, my shopping habits are recorded in Tesco and everybody from the gas company to my mobile phone company records my every move with a credit reference agency. Some of this is voluntary but convenient - but one place I don't want to be tracked is when I'm going out on the razz! I have already turned down the opportunity to sign up to this scheme at the Bulldog. Surely pubs and bars can find better, more friendly ways of controlling drinkers (isn't that what bouncers are for....?)

said anonymously
on Sunday, 3 June 2007, 12:04pm

Public safety of course hugely concerns the public, but clubs are by definition private areas designated for friendly socialising with like-minded members.

Fingerscans happen to be one particular club’s membership requirement, so if fingerscanning goes against the grain for any particular person then that person won’t find like-minded fellow-members there anyway. There are other clubs!

Maybe more general understanding/acceptance of where individuals draw the line, with their either stricter or more liberal criteria, could work better than agro of protests and more rules & regs already proven to increase divisions between human beings. However, as Confucius famously declared ‘progress can never be stopped’ it seems only a matter of time until other body parts are inevitably up (or down) for scanning in due course. Important to maintain choice-no-pressure, not force over-all obedience to any more laws?

Poppy.

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